The Need for Spiritual Fathers and Mothers
Justyn Pride (Sun, 17 Jun 2018)
On Father's Day, Justyn looked at the the need for the church to be spiritual fathers and mothers and to demonstrate the spirit of sonship rather than orphanship.
Unfortunately, there is no audio from this morning.
Sundays talk was based upon 1 Cor 4:15 where Paul is writing to the church in Corinth about how they are lacking in spiritual Fathers & Mothers in the church, but have many guides/teachers.
It’s easy to be one who tells others what to be doing, but harder to be a Father or Mother. A guide has followers, but a Father/Mother has children, and walk the journey.
God has revealed himself as a Father, and sent Jesus so that we could be reconciled to him, and be adopted into his family. He has done it all for us!
Fathers bring many things which include:
• Unconditional love, that brings amazing security and freedom. We don’t perform for love, but operate out of being loved.
• Our identity as dearly loved children. We are children of the King - royalty. How amazing is that! Fathers aid their children’s growth to maturity and to fulfil who they are. They ‘call out the gold’ in their children.
Sons are always sons, but grow and have sons and daughters of their own. They need to keep honouring their fathers and mothers, and be learners from their fathers and mothers.
The opposite of a son is an orphan. We can have an orphan spirit/heart which can be independence, always looking at the lack, operating for love, and not from love, or living in fear not freedom. We are not made to be orphans, but sons and daughters of God.
1. Have you had, or still have spiritual mothers and fathers in your life. What impact have they had?
2. Are you a spiritual parent to someone either in the church or not? Ask God to put someone on your heart.
3. Are there areas in your life where you feel more than an orphan than a son? Do you know what caused this? What is the truth that you need to believe, and any actions needs to operate in a different spirit?
Phil Hardy (Sun, 10 Jun 2018)
Phil spoke on journeying with God at our baptism service.
Further notes and questions may be available in due course.
Sue's testimony and baptism
Relationship With The Holy Spirit
Andy Davies (Sun, 03 Jun 2018)
Andy explained that we needed a relationship with the Holy Spirit.
Our reaction to the Holy Spirit is often like how four different animals react to water:
(i) Cat - hates water and tries to avoid it;
(ii) Baboon - doesn't like water but is prepared to use it in certian situations;
(iii) Human - goes to the seaside on a hot day and then talks about it afterwards;
(iv) Hippo - gets in the water first thing and stays in there all day.
Further notes and questions may follow in due course.
Peter Williams (Sun, 20 May 2018)
Peter spoke about the fact that we are a royal priesthood.
End of an era!
Last time in tent or mobile home
Tension, presence of God and moving on
Key is knowing who we are and what we are here for.
Accomplish our purpose
Enjoying the presence of God is essential in us being complete
When we are in the right place, we will see God's purpose accomplished
That's what Moses is telling Israel
Deuteronomy 7:6-9 and 7:12-15
Some responsibilities (keep rules, old covenant)
Many blessings mentioned
They only knew God in this way because they came into his presence and had relationship. Out of that came incredible blessing.
Royal wedding. Who could identity with what it must be like to be royal?
Who here is royal?
Who here is a priest?
Old covenant, new covenant.
1 Peter 2:4-10
Priests had access to the temple, and thus God.
Priests were the intermediary between the people and God.
Priests had no possessions
We are the priesthood of all believers,
so we have full access to God….
We can be an intermediary for the non believer...
and we have no possessions….
How do we live in response to what/who we are?
Do we live in the knowledge of this?
All about identity.
Do you know who you are?
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
Do you know who we are?
Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
What have you achieved in the last 30 years?
What do you want to achieve in the next 30?
What are your dreams for the church in the next 30?
What is your place in that?
Phil Hardy (Sun, 13 May 2018)
Phil continued looking at God's goodness and how we can experience it.
Unfortunately, there is no audio from this morning.
And he said, "Behold, I am making a . Before all your people I will do marvels, such as have not been created in all the earth or in any nation. And all the people among whom you are shall see the work of the Lord, for it is an awesome thing that I will do with you.”
Exodus 34:10 ESV
Or in the NTL
“The Lord replied, “Listen, I am making a covenant with you in the presence of all your people. I will perform miracles that have never been performed anywhere in all the earth or in any nation. And all the people around you will see the power of the Lord —the awesome power I will display for you.”
Exodus 34:10 NLT
Gods Goodness is Displayed in what he does
• He is good whether he does anything or not
• He is good by his very nature, he cannot be anything but good
• But God being God wants us to know by experience his goodness
• I think we get little a see little because we expect little
• God wants our expectation and experience of his goodness to increase
• Manifestations of the spirit are a demonstration of his goodness
• Stories of jewels and Gold Dust appearing in meetings
• Instant healing's
• Stories of impossible situations changed in a moment
• God wants to show to us his Goodness
• I don't believe he ever wanted for us to have just head knowledge, he wants us to experience his goodness
God Promises extraordinary things
• We sing all your promises are Yes and Amen - promises made to Moses and his people were fully fulfilled.
• So just as Bad things happen to good people doing the right things It also has to be true that Good things happen to people doing the right things
• Goodness from God not reserved for the few, God promises good to all who love and follow him
• Psalm 23 most famous psalm that most of us probably know off by heart
David speaks of a loving, caring, devoted one that David calls a Shepherd. He speaks of his experience of the tender care and goodness he has experienced. Even in the valley of the shadow of death he is protected and comforted and s fears are calmed
He also declares and as certainty "Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life"
It's as though there's no question about it, it's going to happen because it's who my God is
• God wants us to live in the extraordinary as we move forward together into is good and perfect will for us
• I don't just think Goodness and mercy should follow us around like some sort of shadow my prayer would be that his goodness and mercy overwhelm us as we sing about his love that chase's us down
• God wants us to experience his goodness he wants the people of the peaks to know he is good but if they do not see that in our lives that we live in the experience of his goodness how are they going to know
• Signs, wonders and miracles are just expressions of his goodness and signs a that point to Jesus and he promised greater things we will do than he did
• By not pursuing him to see his goodness made known we are robbing ourselves and those who do not yet know him of the the knowledge and experience of his goodness
• The provision and work on The Lime Tree is evidence of his goodness to us, a physical expression that can be seen
We are going to take communion
I want to read John 10 - The Good Shepherd - He leads well and knows his people, there is no one like him
Whilst we take communion reflect on his Goodness in that he chose to give up his life and take it up again that you might have life and live it in the knowledge of his saving grace and Goodness and that he wants to show you and us together his Glory and goodness
Remembering that every good and perfect gift is from God who is alway Good - James 1:17
• How many good gifts can you list?
• How often do you thank God for these gifts?
• How often do we ask and expect God to reveal and demonstrate his goodness?
• What are you believing God for as we enter the next phase of the journey as a church?
The Presence Of God
Neal Garratt (Sun, 06 May 2018)
Neal preached from Exodus 33 on the importance of the presence of God.
Further notes and questions may be available in due course.
God's Goodness And Times Of Suffering
Phil Hardy (Sun, 29 Apr 2018)
Phil married the preaches from the previous two weeks, looking at God's goodness in times of suffering.
Please note, the recording starts with Jon's word about us all being on a threshold with God.
Marry the last 2 weeks together
God is good all the time - true
In this life we will have trouble - fact
The reality is sometimes Bad things happen to good people doing the right things
Moses had a hard time as did the people of God but they did not understand or know what God was like
The promise was there own land flowing with milk and Honey, Gods plan was good and for their Good. But failed to see that as the Journey to get there was fraught with troubles
Even though they messed up God's goid plan was still going to be fulfilled and it seems it came with greater glory
God's glory reveals his goodness and his goodness is seen in his glory.
It was to the Glory of God that jesus should suffer - there was a bigger picture and redemptions plan would bring greater glory to God.
There are some worship songs that talk about suffering and are easy to sing when your not but very hard to sing when you are
Very often our worship is determined by how we feel and affected by our circumstances
If God is good and always good then he is always worthy and deserves our worship our praise our adoration irrespective of our circumstances or situation
So how can we live in Gods goodness particularly when times as Matt Redman put it "the road marked with suffering" in his song Blessed be your name?
Songs like this are very often birthed out of experience as this was
1. Does suffering come from God?
We live in a fallen world
Men love evil rather than good so do bad things that hurt people
Our bodies are subject to disease, infection, and decay
Finances can become tight or non existent
We can fall into sinful behaviour and habits that carry consequences in areas of our lives
The bible says we have an enemy who goes around like a lion seeking someone to devour
To answer the question No it does not and cannot if he is Good all the time. He cannot therefore do bad stuff
2. How to enjoy God's goodness even when life is hard
Moses experienced Gods Goodness as he passed before him, in chapter 34 God renews the covenant spend 40 days and nights on the mountain with God who descends in a cloud and passes before him
“And he said, "Behold, I am making a covenant. Before all your people I will do marvels, such as have not been created in all the earth or in any nation. And all the people among whom you are shall see the work of the Lord, for it is an awesome thing that I will do with you.”
Exodus 34:10 ESV
When Moses comes down the mountain having spent time with God his face is shining and has to cover it.
“Whenever Moses went in before the Lord to speak with him, he would remove the veil, until he came out. And when he came out and told the people of Israel what he was commanded, the people of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face was shining. And Moses would put the veil over his face again, until he went in to speak with him.”
Exodus 34:34-35 ESV
Moses spent time with God both in the good and in the bad. And his grace shone
not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. But their minds were hardened. For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. But when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.
2 Corinthians 3:13-18 ESV
3. How should we respond ?
• Spending time with God being honest about how we are and feeling
• Remember the good things he has done
• I know it is hard, you can have both good and bad things that seem to run together or you have a season of good soon followed by a season of difficulty
• We can rejoice in Gods goodness when all is well but easily forget that he is good even when we are suffering.
“Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”
Matthew 11:28 ESV
I'm working on this one right now had some sleepless nights recently different things happening lately
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. For as we share abundantly in Christ's sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too. If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; and if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we suffer. Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort.
2 Corinthians 1:3-7 ESV
There are many scriptures we could go to and they are great but ultimately we need to to go to our good father who is the God of all comfort
So God is good and sometimes life sucks. The rain falls on the righteous and the unrighteousness alike. It's the way it is but we as Christians have one good father we can go to and find comfort and rest and are able to know his goodness even in the trial.
We've had stories of healing and yet not all have been healed
We have had stories of breakthroughs but not all have seen breakthroughs in their situations yet
There were good thing promised and planned for God's people but it was not all plain sailing they went through trial and testing posses the fulness of the promise and they God there and saw all God promised
Another song that reveals truth
Strength will rise as we wait upon the Lord one our strong deliverer
Do you need your good loving Heavenly Father to comfort you today?
1. How do we reconcile God's goodness and suffering whether its personal suffering or what we see in the world
2. What is your understanding of a Good good father?
3. Bad things happen to good people doing the right thing. How does that affect our understanding of a good father?
4. Have you a story of how you have known God's goodness in difficult time. How has this helped you in other difficulties? How can we help one another to grasp this truth and live in the good of it daily?
Deuteronomy 2 and 3
Peter Williams (Sun, 22 Apr 2018)
Peter spoke from Deuteronomy 2 and 3 about going to war with God.
For a PDF copy of these notes, click here.
Remember, this is Moses telling the story
2v2. Enough of travelling round the desert, I'm taking you closer, says God.
2vv3-7. Pass through Seir, be in peace
2v18ff. People of Moab and Ammon.
God has a plan for each people group. He asks us to live in harmony. Trade and engage with those we meet.
2v28. Pass through
Ignore us, there's nothing to see, just a million people walking past.
How to react?
Jealousy from Israel? Keen to stop there?
They attack Israel, quite opposite to God's plan…..
God gives them over to Israel.
2v34. Destroy everything. No survivors. Plundered the land, and then settled some people in it (ch3 says so)
3v1 They reach Bashan. They encounter Og. v11 tells us Og absolutely huge. If bed anything to go by, Goliath size. 10ft tall? Bed was 6ft by 14ft.
3v2 don't fear him. God's hand will protect you.
Start ch3, they killed everyone. They ransacked their houses, and plundered their wealth and livestock.
Fertile plains are Bashan, mount Hermon to the north. Sixty cities fell as the people of Israel attacked.
Absolutely ransacked, everyone but Og died. He survived.
The people of Bashan rebelled against God.
Travelled up Western side of Israel and took all the land that God gave them, but not what he didn't.
3v26. Moses won't see the promised land, but Joshua will.
God has a plan.
Sometimes we don't get to see the promised land.
It does not mean we are not an important part of the story.
Without Moses, Israel would still be in Egypt!
How do we react to this?
God of love who says do not murder.
God's people who kill a whole people group.
Emulation? Tutsis in Rwanda.
Our response to the story of war
Do good so you are not judged.
If no one did evil, then no need for war or judgement.
Authorities are there to rule and judge.
They can bear the sword to enforce the law.
However, the law needs to be godly……
1 Peter 2:13-17
Whenever you are attacked, whether on the national or personal level, there is the tendency to assume that you are totally righteous and the aggressor is totally evil. But this is never the case. The Bible plainly indicts us all: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom. 3:23). “There is none righteous, not even one” (Rom 3:10). We may be right on a particular issue or occasion, but we need to check ourselves from the thought that easily comes when we are attacked, “I am without fault.” That thought leads us to pride, but the Bible enjoins us to humility by first taking the log out of our own eye in any conflict (Matt. 7:5).
James Jones, bishop
Thought for the day r4 16.4.18
Arrogance is the true enemy of peace
Our response to the story as church
We have taken land around the Peak District, but not in it.
We have fought and lost at times.
When God says it's time to go, he will just give us the land
Are you ready for us to take the land?
What war are you fighting?
Should you be? Is that God's plan for you?
Are there wars you should be fighting?
Do we go into war in trainers t-shirt and shorts like it's going to be a picnic? No training or equipment.
Ephesians 6 is required…..
Train your body, athlete, letting go of what hinders.
In the 1968 Olympics John Akhwari represented Tanzania in the marathon. He was injured in the race, but kept on running. He entered the stadium, leg bandaged, long after the other competitors had gone home and the spectators had left. When asked why he replied "My country did not send me 7000 miles to begin a race, they sent me to finish it."
It's hard to persevere.
When it feels like God's keeping us from our Promised Land how do we react?
Does it drive is to God, or away?
Pete Greig God on mute p212
As we pay the price of obedience we can be sure that every short-term loss plays its part in the long term certainty of victory in Christ.
It's just that we never realised that winning could sometimes hurt like hell.
Some of you are hurting like hell as you go on with God. Due to injury, battle scars, loss, disease.
God says, I am with you…..
Fight my battles and you'll be a winner.
Fight where I am not leading you, and there will be misery….
Battle for your soul, won!
See healing and changed hearts, battles won…..
How do you reconcile a loving God and his instruction to go to war?
How do you respond to God's word for us to take the Peak District?
How are you personally getting ready for us to do this?
For a good explanation of the passage look at Matthew Henry.
For a good worship song to go with this look at Chris Tomlin, "Sovereign"
Walking In God's Favour - Part 2
Phil Hardy (Sun, 15 Apr 2018)
Phil continued his preach from last week, looking again at walking in God's favour and goodness.
Last week looked at Moses being favoured by God
Looked at what attracts Gods Favour - faith, believing in him
Some of the evidences of Gods favour
• God favour would bring them into the fullness of his promise he made to bring them into the promised land flowing with milk and honey
• Produce supernatural increase (Gen 39:21)
• Bring restoration of every thing the enemy has stolen (Exo. 3:21).
Gods Favour means
• You wants you to Stand permanently on favoured ground daily
• He wants you to be established in favour-consciousness that brings intimacy with God and empowers you to win every battle in life.
• The favour of God sets you apart from others,
• Helps develop strength of character, and gives you a confident hope of God's goodness that never disappoints.
• You can Learn how you can take hold of God's irrevocable favour on your life today and see the Lord turn every trial and testing time into a testimony, and
• Favour that causes your troubles to work out for your good!
Gods favour not defined by your circumstances, difficulty does not equal lack of favour
God favour on Moses and his people was
“And he said, "Behold, I am making a covenant. Before all your people I will do marvels, such as have not been created in all the earth or in any nation. And all the people among whom you are shall see the work of the Lord, for it is an awesome thing that I will do with you. "Observe what I command you this day. Behold, I will drive out before you the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites.”
Exodus 34:10-11 ESV
It would not come about without some battles, it would take courage and strength. It would mean sacrifice to do it Gods way but nevertheless It was Gods favour on his people.
The Goodness of God
Sometimes I get the feeling I'm missing something
Exodus 33 - All Gods goodness passed before Moses - God is good all the time it's his nature
When he says all his goodness will pass by, we know it's God himself it's who he is because he also says you cannot see my face and live. So we know it's him, Moses would know it's him.
The goodness of God is one of those things we affirm happily when things are going well, and find rather difficult when they aren’t.
Saying God is good, means he does good things and doesn’t do bad things or mediocre things or things which don’t quite work out.
God is good by definition; anywhere you find goodness you will, by definition, have God, and vice versa. You can’t have God without goodness, and you can’t have goodness without God.
This is the teaching of the whole of Scripture.
Everything God made was very good (Genesis 1:31).
No one is good except God (Mark 10:18).
All things work together for good for those who love God (Romans 8:28).
Those who seek Yahweh lack no good thing (Psalm 34:10). And so on.
God's goodness not defined by your experiences. And should not be measured by our circumstances.
Personal testimony - it took me years to learn God this that I am favoured by God and that he is good and will work all things for good.
For years I heard people say God is good all the time but it did not feel like he was, my experience told me otherwise
Give thanks to the Lord for he us good - before the psalmist recounts what God has done he recognises that God is Good and that his steadfast love endures forever
Andrew Wilson - Incomparable P53
David knew this to be true even though he had many troubles and threats upon his life he had found his God to be good.
David's experience of God’s goodness from a place of suffering. In psalm 34 verse 19, he makes the announcement, “Many are the afflictions of the righteous.” Even with a good God, who is sovereign over everything and has the power to do whatever he likes, good people still suffer. His punchline, though, comes in the next phrase: “but Yahweh delivers him out of them all.” Evil happens, but “none of those who take refuge in him will be condemned” (34:22).
It could not be any other way. God is shown to be good from our experience, he is also good by definition. He has never been faced with a catch-22 situation, forced to choose between the lesser of two evils, or flummoxed into a decision that was anything less than completely good. Therefore — and this bit is both the hardest, and the most powerful, when we’re suffering — if God has done something, it is good. End of story.
We may well not understand why God has done it, of course. Job didn’t either. But we can be confident, based on Scripture and on our experience, that as sure as milk is white, Yahweh is good. Taste and see!
Neal likes rich chocolate cake he mentions it often. Whether you like chocolate cake or not you won't know unless you tried it. It's one think being told rich chocolate cake tastes good , but unless you try it for yourself you only have the the opinions others. You have to taste to find out He has been good to us by cleansing us from all sin, freeing us from the power that sin had over us, he been good by adopting us as his Children, he's been good by giving us his Holy Spirit, he's showed his goodness to us by giving us hope and a future in this life and the one to come. God is good for your present and future, in irrespective of your current situation or circumstances.
There's got to be something that's important about getting hold of this truth as it seems to me that those who have got hold of this truth live in a different spiritual place and experience supernatural increase
He makes all things work together for my good. - it comes about out of his goodness because he is good.
• Believe that He is good (Ps. 136:1).
• Believe that He is able (Eph. 3:20).
• Believe that He trustworthy (Ps. 28:6-7).
• Believe that He is unchanging (James 1:17).
Song Jesus Culture - your love never fails
How do you understand the Goodness of God?
Whats the connection between Gods Glory and his Goodness
King David said taste and see that the Lord is good - what is your understanding of this exhortation?
How can we live enjoying Gods goodness whilst going through some difficulty or serious illness?
Walking In God's Favour
Phil Hardy (Sun, 08 Apr 2018)
Phil spoke from Exodus 33:12-23 about walking in God's favour.
If I was to say "I know how to attract God's favour". You would want to know yes?
So it's definitely not something you start a conversation with.
"Hey, how are you? Good. By the way, I know how to attract God's favour."
So in the interest of not sounding presumptuous, let me put it this way: I know how to get God's attention and, so let's have a look at how we can attract more of the favour of God.
As we see in scripture one thing that attracts God's favour has been the spark that resulted in
children born from dead wombs,
blind eyes opened,
the dead raised
Terminal sickness gone
and countless other miraculous events
Favour of God has resulted in people in our church been healed of cancer, barrenness, set free from addictions to alcohol, drugs and food etc.
This favour has enabled words of knowledge about a person's life revealing the very thing that keeps them from coming to know Jesus.
You would think that if all this was happening because of one simple thing, then everybody would just do it, right?
It would be simple. Go and find out what these people are doing and do the same thing! That would make the most sense to me.
I wish it was that easy. Alright, Would you like to know how to attract God's favour? Would you like to know how to get God's attention?
Exodus 33 v12
Favour means kindness beyond what is due to you; to be preferred; over generous preferential treatment; having an edge or an advantage over others; partiality; unmerited act of kindness; endorsement; help rendered to you without recourse to what you have done, omitted to do or your qualification. We call it GRACE
Attraction is to draw attention, pull in, magnetise, captivate, lure, or entice. When you want to attract someone’s attention you have to do something to make them notice you.
Gods favour to Moses and the people
How did Moses attract Gods Favour?
• He was chosen from the beginning, he had a life calling to fulfill
• He was a devout man, God humbled him through Life experience
• He feared the Lord - His first encounter with God at the Burning bush
• He was an incurable sacrificial giver - He sacrificed everything to follow the call from God
• He was a prayerful man - He sought God spent time with him God said "With Moses I speak face to face"
• He was a worshipper - He lived a life of worship.
God’s favour can bring a lot of blessings
Divine favour can
• Produce supernatural promotion and increase (Gen 39:21)
• Bring restoration of every thing the enemy has stolen (Exo. 3:21).
• Bring honour in the midst of adversaries (Exo. 11:3).
• Produce increased assets (Deut. 33:23).
• Give great and unusual victories even against impossible odds (Josh 6:20; 10: 9, 20).
• Give recognition and promotion even when you seem to the least likely one to receive it (1 Sam. 16:22).
• Produce prominence and preferential treatment, favour and kindness (Esther 5:8).
• Get petitions granted, even by ungodly civil authority (Esther 5:8).
• Change rules, regulations, even laws if necessary to your advantage (Esther 8:5).
• Win battles you did not even have to fight because God will fight them for you (Psalm 44:3).
• But there is a price to be paid, and that is righteousness.
• It comes through the new birth knowing we are Children of God, i mean really knowing, not just head knowledge
• Through faith even when our circumstances say the opposite
• Continuing in total obedience to God
The evidence of Gods Favour
The evidence of Gods favour on Moses and his people
• Released from slavery
• Released with wealth
• Had a promise of a land rich in every way for them to inhabit
• Provision on the journey
• But above all that and probably, the best was
And he said, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest."
And he said, "I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name 'The Lord .' And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.
Prophetically God has said its to me to dream again for the Peak District.
Do you believe this is God's favour on us as a people?
1. What are you dreaming about for the church?
2. What is the evidence of Gods favour on you?
3. Can you recognise it?